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PostSubject: A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding   A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 27, 2010 9:08 pm

A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding Charcowcalf2010


A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding Charxbull2010

Tough sledding out here in the real world armed only with certain types in mind; developed from experiences raising cattle rather than university programing. The two pictures above actually are outliers from the Charolais genepool I am working Question playing with...but the pictures represent the efficiencies that could be consistently obtained from a Tru-line or just complimentary types crossed...maybe should imagine a bwf cow with the Charx calf...of course, this little cow/big calf scenario happens in registered breeding by chance from time to time...but just like crossbreeding; it is a one time phenominon that can`t be duplicated with consistency...so it blows my mind a bit, that registered breeders are spending 40/60/planning a 100 years of breeding to make efficient cows...when the parts exist to create that efficiency TODAY.
Do we as breeders really need to make a complete new automobile, or just make some better complimentary parts?



I kind feel like a McCombie era breeder with these Chars...no knowledge beyond what I see, but with plenty of experience of different types assets, and deficiencies...looking for those "good enough" to mate with each other...
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average performance; superior type...
bred below to the same; her half brother...
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That would be too easy, would not generate as much income for the AAA and Tom Burke's checking account would suffer somewhat. Smile
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The whites are looking good Mike, I am not going to try to spell that other word again, I am still a little unsure on this crossbreeding thing, would this be something like you are talking about.
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This scrawny little 5 year old, would be out of a below average growth, too high milk, Angus bull, a black baldy cow of unknown origin, and a very much mainstream, terminal very high growth angus sired calf........so is it crossbreeding? heterosis? or an attempt at a profitable terminal cross to maximize profits in feeding\carcass sector? Someone smarter than me will have to answer.
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PostSubject: Re: A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding   A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 28, 2010 7:35 am

Looking at your pics Bootheel sure brings back memories. I used to have a bunch of cows/calves very much like the pair you pictured. The cows were holstein/hereford cross and I bred them to terminal angus bulls til the cows got too old. This group were the most profitable cows I ever owned, would produce 600-700 lbs of calf in 7 months. The cows bred back real good, usually no opens. One year I left the calves on the cows all winter, calves averaged over 900 lbs when weaned 6 wks before next calving. Calves showed little or no dairy influence, sold well.
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test herd report on the above Charloais bull
Nice maybe five pounds heavier than the blacks. Wish I had more

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It doesn’t get much better than that Smile as that calf appears to have good vigour. My 5 year goal includes around 500 of those calves under blue sky Cool
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PostSubject: Re: A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding   A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 02, 2010 10:56 am

Hilly wrote:
It doesn’t get much better than that Smile as that calf appears to have good vigour. My 5 year goal includes around 500 of those calves under blue sky Cool

500 calves worth $50 more dollars with no added input cost.... Cool
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PostSubject: Re: A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding   A case for stabalized lines and crossbreeding I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 03, 2010 11:31 am

shilow angus wrote:
Hilly wrote:
It doesn’t get much better than that Smile as that calf appears to have good vigour. My 5 year goal includes around 500 of those calves under blue sky Cool

500 calves worth $50 more dollars with no added input cost.... Cool

That should help in my performance review... may even be able to justify enterprise expansion cheers
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